Frequently Asked Questions

1.      What is Timbeter?

Timbeter is a smart-device application that enables quick and accurate measurement of timber. The solution gives the size of the pile, the number of logs, average diameter and the diameter of every log. Timbeter's functionality includes automatic coefficient assessment for pulp-and fuelwood.

2.      Who benefits from using Timbeter?

Timbeter is useful for anyone who deals with timber measurement:

  • Sawmills
  • Manufacturers
  • Forest owners
  • Firewood manufacturers
  • Transportation companies 

3.      Where can I download Timbeter?

Timbeter can be downloaded for Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ee.timberdiameter

or iPhone https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/timbeter/id1249312902?ls=1&mt=8

4.      On what devices I can use Timbeter?

Simply, any smartphone or tablet will do. The team recommends that if you have a tablet to use this - user feedback has determined that the larger screen enables easier use. The more powerful camera, the better result.

5.      How accurate is Timbeter?

Timbeter's accuracy is certified by Metrosert (https://www.metrosert.ee/en/s/company). The averages with different distances varies from 0.5 until 1.5 %. 

6.      What are the main benefits of using Timbeter:

Timbeter application is:

  • Easy to use
  • Accurate
  • Quick
  • Effective
  • Transparent
  • Trackable
  • Paper free

7. How quick is Timbeter?

It takes on average 3 minutes to make a measurement.  In comparison, to measure one pile log-by-log can take up to 45 minutes.

8.  What should I do if I made an incorrect measurement using Timbeter?

You can simply edit the existing measurement or make a new one within the storage module.

9.  Is Timbeter secure?

We use industry-leading technology (such as TLS) to keep your information safe. Timbeter never stores your credit card information. Other confidential information and the transit of data from your smart-device to our storage module is automatically encrypted using the Transport Layer Security (TLS).

10.  Who can see my measurements?

Measurement results are saved in the application under the Results menu. All the measurements are stored in the cloud and only authorized persons can have access to the information by logging in from timbeter.com

11. Is there any specific requirement for the reference?

Simply use any object with minimum 1m length. You can place the measurement stick (or any reference you prefer) either vertically or horizontally across the pile.

12. What photo resolution will be sufficient to detect precise timber diameters as possible?

Timbeter works at all resolutions, however in our experience, the higher photo resolution the better picture. The photo’s resolution determines each pixel to a metric unit ratio.

13. Is it possible to measure in poor lighting conditions? 

If it is really dark, then we advise to use extra light, for example a head-lamp during the night.

14. What kind of log volume calculation formulas does Timbeter have?

Timbeter has the following formulae inside the application:
  • Cylindrical formula
  • JAS Scale
  • GOST
  • Doyle Log Scale
  • International 1/4" Rule
  • Roy Log Rule
  • Scribner Decimal C Rule
  • Ontario Scaler's Rule
  • Maine Log Rule
  • Nilson (Estonian formula)
  • Lithuanian formula
  • Lithuanian formula with bark


15. What is the exact formula for JAS scale

For logs less than 6m long:
V(m3) = (D^2*L/10000
where:
D - small-end diameter(cm)
L - Length(m)

For logs equal to or greater than 6m:
V(m3) = (D + [L'-4]/2)^2*(L/10000)
where
D - small-end diameter(cm)
L - Length(m)
L' - length in meters rounded down to nearest whole number

16. What happens if I don't have a internet connection?

Not a problem, Timbeter calculates timber measurement within the app hence no internet connection is required. Once the app returns to an internet coverage area, your images will upload to your cloud storage platform.

17. What if the temperature drops below minus 20C (minus 4F) – can I still measure?

Yes, you can. If it is freezing outside, we would suggest you to make pictures with the reference and save these. Later in a warm office you can do the measurement. We’ve been testing out different devices for 3 winters now and the majority of them work fine.

18. Can my information become lost for any reason (for example servers go down)?

No, your information is secure with Timbeter. Information is stored in the cloud and saved in the storage platform once the measurement has been done.

19. How does Timbeter measure - under or over the bark?

The majority of countries use under the bark measurement for volume calculation, so does Timbeter. Timbeter detects the contour area of a log under the bark and converts it to a symmetrical circle. Bark is excluded from the diameter. Only a couple of countries (like some of our partners in Finland) are actually measuring log diameters over the bark. If you require calculating the volume over the bark, then simply add 10-12%, as this is the most common ratio for bark.

20. Is it possible to measure odd-shape logs? 

Yes. Timbeter detects the whole surface of the log, converts it to a symmetrical circle and calculates the exact average diameter based on this. When measurements are made manually, typically the person measures the widest and the narrowest part of the log and hence calculates the average. Using Timbeter, you'll obtain the exact average log diameter.

21.  What happens if some of the logs are covered by a shadow, and Timbeter does not detect these?

The team suggest you simply add the logs that were missing during the correction process. It is easy to re-measure the existing measurement whether your are using the app or viewing your stored measurements within your Storage Module on your computer's desktop.

22. Cubic Meter vs Board Feet?

Timbeter can utilize both the metric and imperial measurement system to calculate your timber volumes. Thus providing you with the calculated result, whether it be in cubic meters or board feet.

23. How about the length?

Length of the log needs to be inserted by the user. Should a situation arise where the logs are different lengths, the team strongly suggest you determine the average length of the logs concerned.

24. Can I get the measurement results in Excel?

Yes. Timbeter provides the total number of logs and the figure of logs with certain diameters. Furthermore this information can be easily downloaded in Excel.

25. How is the price for pulpwood calculated?

The volume of timber is calculated by using pile density coefficient that is multiplied with the cubage of the pile. Pile density coefficient determines the timber amount without air and bark. Timbeter detects the coefficient in a couple of minutes.

If the coefficient is 50, the price to pay is: 0.5x60(volume) x 30 (price) = €900.

In case the coefficient is actually 56, then the average truck costs 0.56x60 (volume) x 30 (price) = €1008.

26. How does the Timbeter Container measurement work?

Timbeter counts the number logs, their exact diameter and the volume in the container that connects to the bill of lading. Users can also mark defects if needed. This vital information can be shared with other parties via e-mail or as a link: either by container or a bill of lading. By doing measurements this way the purchasing party can receive digital proof upfront and have correct and accurate information on the log quality and quantity.

27. Do you have an iOS version?

Yes, we do!

28. In what languages Timbeter is available?

English, Portugese, French, Chinese, Russian, German, Lithuanian, Estonian. Spanish coming soon!

29. What happens if I make mistake and use all my measurements?

During the trial we assist our customers and make sure that they get measurements right. That requires that the device is a some points connected to the Internet so the measurements are uploaded to the cloud.  In case you have made a mistake, we´ll add you measurements.